Trenbolone for the Very First Steroid Cycle

By Alen Hao Sales Manager from Shenzhen OK Biotech Technology Co., Ltd.（SZOB）

Q: “Your articles have two pieces of advice that are totally contrary to recommendations I read on boards everywhere. One, even for a guy’s very first cycle you seem to like choosing trenbolone. Everywhere else, the vets shoot that down when anyone suggests that’s what they want to do for a first cycle. You also write cycles up around a gram per week for first cycles. Same thing. Are those old recommendations which you’ve since changed, or is there a reason behind them?”

A: I still often recommend those kinds of cycles as first cycles.

Why I do so is a combination of experience and some specific reasoning.

I continue to recommend cycles of these types because they work extremely well. They never disappoint. In contrast, cycles of the type often recommended on boards and the like frequently disappoint, or require extended time to provide much result.

There hasn’t been an adverse side effect reason to stop recommending these cycles. With correct combination of steroids, and anti-aromatase use when using larger amounts of aromatizable steroids, side effects at the 1000 mg/week level are usually not problematic for those who are careful with what they are doing.

As for trenbolone, a very small percentage do indeed find it unsuitable for them entirely, but the great majority can use at least 37.5 mg of trenbolone acetate per day, and a large majority have no real problem with 50 mg/day. The most common issue is night sweats, but that’s a harmless price to pay.

When people agree with trenbolone as a suitable choice for later cycles but not the first, this makes no sense as there’s no regard in which previous experience makes a difference. If trenbolone is suitable for an individual, it will be just as suitable in a first cycle as in a later one. Anabolic steroids are not like narcotics: it’s not the case that tolerance must be or is developed.

Why have such fast gains as these higher dose cycles promote, though? Is there really a need for the beginner to make really fast gains, as occurs with such cycles and proper training and nutrition?

Well, a beginner, as with anyone but even moreso, wants to gain some amount. If he can gain an amount he’s thrilled with in a short time, then he’ll be happy with a short cycle. If he gains little in a short period of time, then he won’t be happy with that, and will seek longer cycles.

I would far rather see the beginner use short cycles, no more than 8 weeks and in some instances as little as 2 weeks, and enjoy fast recoveries rather than see him remain on steroids for 12 or 14 weeks, or even longer, trying to eke out results from marginal dosing. There are many reasons for preferring shorter cycles, including better recovery. Short cycles do not work well with marginal dosing.

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An Eight-Week Steroid Cycle with Trenbolone and Dianabol

By Alen Hao Sales Manager from Shenzhen OK Biotech Technology Co., Ltd.（SZOB）

Q: “I’ve done four trenbolone/Dianabol two-week cycles copied from your ‘Jim’ article. The results were great until the last one. I got a total of 25 lb retained muscle from the first three, but only about 3 lb more in the last one. I moved up to 75 mg/day trenbolone acetate for that one, too. That last result has me wanting to do 8 weeks now.

How do I adapt the cycle for 8 weeks? I’m reluctant to push Dianabol for 8 weeks on account of the liver. I have no problems there but don’t want to risk. I would also like to switch from everyday pinning. That’s okay for 2 weeks but always by the end of the second week I’m glad it’s over.”

A: I’ll be glad to answer your question just as asked and provide an example 8 week trenbolone/Dianabol cycle. But, I’d like to comment on getting 3 lb further retained muscle in the last two-week cycle.

While not seeming spectacular, as your earlier cycles were, that amount or even much less can actually be a great result.

Lee Haney often made the point that his gains over his Mr Olympia reign (1984-1991) were consistently 3 lb per year. He was a realist, and was communicating that as a successful competitor those were his results.

Of course, at the start of this period, he was more advanced than you are, so his gains were slower than what’s still available to you.

But the point is, three pounds of retained muscle is not at all bad for two weeks time. As it’s possible to do eight 2 on / 4 off cycles per year, or thirteen 2 on / 2 off cycles, one could achieve even less per cycle and be very well ahead for the year.

That said, let’s adapt your cycle for eight weeks!

The trenbolone program will be trenbolone enanthate 700 mg on Day 1, and 200 mg every other day throughout Weeks 1-6. In weeks 7 and 8, you’ll switch to trenbolone acetate 75 mg/day, with the last injection being on the fourth day of Week 8.

You need about 40% more trenbolone enanthate than acetate to have an equal amount of trenbolone, because the ester adds more weight. This is why the milligram amount is increased compared to your previous cycles.

On the Dianabol usage, your concern on the timeframe brings up an interesting point. I think the main area where my cycle planning likely can be advanced is with regard to orals. The six-week limitation is an extremely well-proven approach, and when broken there have been cases where liver values were poor by the 8-week point. But that was prior to TUDCA. I doubt that TUDCA is a cure-all for the liver issues of alkylated steroids, but it’s possible it may help enough to make routine 8-week use acceptable. I mean acceptable in the sense that it can be recommended to thousands of people and not harm any of them.

If it were me, and at some near point I will do it, I’d try the Dianabol at 50 mg/day with TUDCA 500 mg/day with intention to probably do all 8 weeks with the Dianabol. However, I’d do a liver test at 6 weeks and would discontinue use if serum bilirubin or GGT were outside the normal range. My replacement for Dianabol 50 mg/day would be testosterone propionate 50 mg/day.

(I don’t think there’s exact equivalence there: the testosterone is a less effective combination with the trenbolone but for just two weeks it will do.)

If you do choose to limit your Dianabol use to 6 weeks, then I’d do the first two weeks with testosterone propionate 50 mg/day, with 150 mg on Day 1, and begin Dianabol in Week 3.

As you didn’t mention using an anti-aromatase, I’m supposing your personal experience is you can use Dianabol at 50 mg/day without estrogen problem. However, if you did need an an anti-aromatase, then use the same as you did before.

You can also use the same PCT as before, for example Clomid 300 mg on Day 1 as three doses of 100 mg, followed by 50 mg/day for most likely 4 weeks, and until you’re completely confident of full recovery.

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The Perfect 8-Week Testosterone-Based Steroid Cycle

June 9, 2016 By Alen hao

Q: “What’s an example of a complete 8 week testosterone based cycle, using say 750 mg/week testosterone and no other anabolic steroids? Counting PCT and including everything that is necessary or best to include. And what are the reasons behind the details, and why would the plan be better than typical recommendations?”
A: For this 8 week plan, I’d start with testosterone enanthate, three injections per week of 250 mg. The reason for dividing into two injections is the half-life is not long enough for a single injection per week to give steady levels.
On Day 1, I wouldn’t inject just 500 mg, however. Doing so wouldn’t bring blood levels where they need to be. With ongoing injections of 250 mg three times per week, it would be about a month before levels would be properly established. For better results, on Day 1 I’d inject about 750 mg as a frontload (five days’ worth, plus the usual daily amount, because the half life is about five days.) This would fairly promptly get levels where they need to be and where they’ll remain with ongoing 750 mg/week dosing.
I’d start letrozole (Arimidex could be chosen instead) at for example about 0.7mg/day, though the needed amount could be somewhat more or less. For the same reason as with the testosterone enanthate, there would be a frontload on Day 1, though here the frontload would be a triple dose, in this case 2.1 mg.
During the cycle, if sensing any sign of low estradiol such as reduced libido, depression, or joint pain I’d discontinue letrozole for 2 days, then resume at lower dose. I might get a blood test for estradiol at the two week point.
With an 8 week cycle, I wouldn’t really need HCG, but optionally could use it at 250 IU three times per week nearly throughout the cycle, until finishing a 5000 IU vial. Alternately, I might use it in just the last four weeks of the cycle, or not at all.
I won’t want to keep using testosterone enanthate through the end of Week 8, because levels would still be elevated in the next week and even into the week past that. Recovery couldn’t begin in Week 9, as I’d intend for an 8 week cycle.
So I’ll use testosterone enanthate for Weeks 1-6, but then switch to testosterone propionate 100 mg/day. I’d end its use in the middle of Week 8, so that levels will fall sufficiently for recovery to begin in the next week as planned. (Ideally I’d add orals for the last half of the week, but as this is a testosterone-only cycle, we’ll omit that.)
I’d discontinue letrozole with the last testosterone propionate injection.
On Day 1 of Week 9, I’d start PCT with Clomid 300 mg (100 mg taken three times), and then 50 mg/day for typically 4 weeks.
And that would be a basic eight-week 750 mg/week testosterone cycle.
The plan would be better than typical recommendations because it achieves effective levels as quickly as possible, maintains them for as long as possible during the planned cycle length, and transitions nearly as rapidly as possible to levels allowing recovery.
I favor either being at effective levels, or being at levels allowing recovery. Being at transitional levels that aren’t very anabolic yet are suppressive is a waste of time.

	TEST ENANTHATE	TEST PROPIONATE	LETROZOLE	HCG	CLOMID
Week 1
M	750mg (frontload)		2.1mg (frontload)
	250mg		0.7mg	250iu
T			0.7mg
W	250mg		0.7mg	250iu
T			0.7mg
F	250mg		0.7mg	250iu
S			0.7mg
S			0.7mg
Week 2
M	250mg		0.7mg	250iu
T			0.7mg
W	250mg		0.7mg	250iu
T			0.7mg
F	250mg		0.7mg	250iu
S			0.7mg
S			0.7mg
Week 3
M	250mg		0.7mg	250iu
T			0.7mg
W	250mg		0.7mg	250iu
T			0.7mg
F	250mg		0.7mg	250iu
S			0.7mg
S			0.7mg
Week 4
M	250mg		0.7mg	250iu
T			0.7mg
W	250mg		0.7mg	250iu
T			0.7mg
F	250mg		0.7mg	250iu
S			0.7mg
S			0.7mg
Week 5
M	250mg		0.7mg	250iu
T			0.7mg
W	250mg		0.7mg	250iu
T			0.7mg
F	250mg		0.7mg	250iu
S			0.7mg
S			0.7mg
Week 6
M	250mg		0.7mg	250iu
T			0.7mg
W	250mg		0.7mg	250iu
T			0.7mg
F	250mg		0.7mg	250iu
S			0.7mg
S			0.7mg
Week 7
M		100mg	0.7mg	250iu
T		100mg	0.7mg
W		100mg	0.7mg	250iu
T		100mg	0.7mg
F		100mg	0.7mg
S		100mg	0.7mg
S		100mg	0.7mg
Week 8
M		100mg	0.7mg
T		100mg	0.7mg
W		100mg	0.7mg
T
F
S
S
Week 9
M					300mg
T					50mg
W					50mg
T					50mg
F					50mg
S					50mg
S					50mg
Week 10
M					50mg
T					50mg
W					50mg
T					50mg
F					50mg
S					50mg
S					50mg
Week 11
M					50mg
T					50mg
W					50mg
T					50mg
F					50mg
S					50mg
S					50mg
Week 12
M					50mg
T					50mg
W					50mg
T					50mg
F					50mg
S					50mg
S					50mg

Bill Alen Hao provides his recommendations for the perfect 8-week testosterone-based steroid cycle
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The Perfect 8-Week Testosterone-Based Steroid Cycle